Visions of the Way it Was, Circa 1961

Visions of the Way it Was, Circa 1961
The First Mule Deer, 1961

By Tom Dorigatti

As I stated in my last blog about that monster pronghorn buck I took with my 30-06 rifle a few days after I turned 14, I was born and raised with a fishing pole in one hand and a trusty rifle in the other!  I won’t bore you with repeating past details about the cost of licenses, and how great the hunting was back in the later 1950’s and throughout the 1960’s.  I’ve already outlined that in my prior blog concerning that B&C pronghorn hunt.

The Search for a Decent Sized Mule Deer Buck

By and large, finding a decent sized mule deer buck back in 1961 wasn’t a big problem.  As you will see, the problem was with getting to them once you “found them.”  My father was by and large a spot and stalk hunter, OR, he would take me up to the top of a mountain before daylight and wait for the shooting to start and that would drive the big bucks and/or bulls up to us.  Climbing mountains in the dark however is yet another story I’ll relate to you later!

This blog is about a spot and stalk of what at the time, to a 14-year old kid seemed to be of epic proportions.  I knew I was going to get me a mule deer, but didn’t know quite how, when, or where this would happen.

On the morning of this hunt, the weather was pretty rough and forecasts weren’t the best.  Thus, we slept in, hoping to head out late morning instead of before sunrise so as to avoid a “bust” of our hunt due to weather.  What a crappy, cold, overcast, and windy day this was going to be!

We headed out with intents and purposes to hunt on Little Prospect Mountain, which is North of Farson, Wyoming and on the way to the Big Sandy Openings.  We weren’t going to end up there either, however.  Nope.  On the way, my dad decided to stop along the road to investigate “Elk Mountain,” a spot he’d always wanted to hunt, but hadn’t yet done so.  That, as I soon found out was about to change.

But before we get here, let’s relay the equipment that was being used on this hunt for mule deer:

The rifle used was a Montgomery Wards 30-06 sporter with a right handed Mauser 98 bolt action and a 4X Weaver Scope and a standard stock mounted leather rifle sling.  The stock was a standard walnut Monte Carlo stock with the cheek pad on the wrong side for this left-handed shooter.  I never had a rifle with the cheek piece on the correct side for shooting left handed!  I also didn’t like left handed bolts, so we never bothered with that option either.  We also did not use tripods on our guns back then; I had to learn the standing, kneeling, and sitting positions with only the aid of the standard military manner of using the rifle sling to steady the rifle.  It had a 22” barrel on it and for a 120 pound kid, this rifle absolutely kicked like a mule! 

Here are the other specifications for those of you interested in reloading the 30-06 caliber loads. For the pronghorn I had used the load with the 4320 powder.  Over the course of the prior 3 weeks, we switched to the load with the 4350 powder. Why?  Heck I don’t know, haha.

Bullet: .308 Sierra Semi Point, 150 grains (we used 180 grain bullets for elk).

Powder: 58 grains of IMR 4350, (or IMP 4320, 52 grains powder).  We kept our loads separate and appropriately marked.

Brass: Military Brass, fire-formed and neck sized only. (Fire-form load: IMR 4320 powder, 49 grains.)

Primer: Winchester C-120, flash hole cleaned before reloading.

Speed: approximately 2950 fps.

I didn’t note before that back then, hunter orange was just beginning to make the scene.  We were required to wear bright red caps and upper body garments.  Camouflage clothing wasn’t prevalent, nor could it be used during rifle season anyway.  So, as you will see in the photo of me and that deer, I was clad in exactly the same coat, hat, and shirt that I was wearing when I took the B&C pronghorn 3 weeks prior.

Elk Mountain

So, we are driving along the rough dirt road and my dad decides to stop and to “glass” Elk Mountain from the road.  He starts in to glassing from the top of the mountain down.  He hadn’t glassed for more than two minutes when he seemed to just stare at a single point for what seemed like forever.  Then he said, “Well, well, there they are.  There are at least 7 of them and I’m thinking there are also several large bucks there, too.  I guess we will just have to go up there and see if we can nail one of them.  Grab your gun, ammo, and put the rope in your pocket.  Mom, you stay here, Tommy and I are going up that mountain and fetch us a deer.”  So, the “stalk” begins.

Now if you look at the photo, Elk Mountain may look like it is really close.  Wrong!  It is a long hike to the area where my dad spotted those deer moving over the crest and down into the “hollow” depicted by the arrow on the photo!  The brush is high, and there is more than one climb involved, along with some pretty steep grades to negotiate as well.  It was approximately a mile to mile and a half to where we needed to go to get to those deer. 

I remember making a comment to my dad as I was getting the stuff together, and it made him a bit angry with me:  I remember saying, “Yeah, it was probably a bunch of sheep that you saw and we’ll get up there to look at sheep.”  That was the wrong thing to say, and it insured that I was going to have to climb that mountain so he could prove himself right in what he saw, too!

So, the climb begins.  I was told at the start that unless any deer we saw on the way up there were huge and close, we were NOT going to shoot at anything.  We were on a mission for one of those big ones that were up there, and that was it.  So, we climbed, and we climbed, and then climbed some more.  It was really cold and windy, and the wind was in our faces the entire way up there. (That is a good thing, however, because they weren’t going to hear us or smell us!)

We are Close:

After all this climbing, we are finally almost to the top of the lower of two ridge lines that are near the top of Elk Mountain. If you view the photo, we came in from the right side, but stayed off the ridge line.  We ran into several deer on the way up there, but nothing would sway my dad from his goal of getting to the big ones he knew were there.  The deer (or what I thought were sheep, ha), were settled in the hollow between the ridge we were on and the top of the mountain, sort of like a small saddle (see arrow).  We stopped, and my dad gave me explicit instructions:  “When we go over the top, all hell is going to break loose.  There likely will be deer all over the place and they’ll be surprised.  I want you to sit down and take out the first BIG mule deer buck that you see.  Don’t waste time, take your shot, and do what you know how to do.  They will be close, so you shouldn’t miss.  Now, close your bolt half-way, and let’s go get ‘em.”

So, that is what we did.  We came over the top of the rise, and by golly, those weren’t sheep that were in that hollow, those were several does and also several very, very large bucks to boot.  So, I immediately spot a large buck, about 30 yards away, standing there looking at me.  I finished closing the bolt, sat down, put the cross-hairs low on his neck and pulled the trigger.  Down went that deer!  Then, all hell really broke loose as more bucks got up out of the high brush and started for the top of the ridge!  There were literally deer growing up out of the brush.  However, my deer was down, so I just sat there and watched them start to bug out.  My father is yelling at me to shoot the bloody deer…the big one over here.  “Dammit, you missed him!  Shoot again, before he gets away.”  I told my dad the deer was down.  He then smacked me along side the head and grabbed my rifle and said, “If you won’t shoot then I will.”  Fortunately, my dad took a longer shot at a running buck (bigger than the one I shot), and he missed that shot.  Now he was furious with me for “blowing my chances at a big buck!”  I kept telling him that I had already shot a big buck and he was ranting and raving at me for screwing up.

I got up after he roughly gave me rifle back to me and he said, “well that was a wasted hike up this *$@*% mountain for NOTHING.  You idiot!  I told you to shoot quickly and you missed an easy shot!  I started walking towards the deer that was down and I remember him saying, “We are not going after those deer, they are long gone.  We are going back to the car!  I told him, “Dad, we are going over to get the deer that I shot.”  I started walking to the dead deer with him hollering at me to go the other way.  Finally, he followed along, grumbling about the blown opportunity.  He grumbled for about 15 yards until he finally saw the dead buck lying in the brush.  Obviously, his demeanor changed and he was put to rest and assured that Tommy hadn’t screwed everything up, but had done what he was told, as in: “Take the first big buck you see that is close, and shoot him.”

So, we get to the deer, and I remember me saying, “So now how are we going to get him out of here?”  My dad said, and I specifically remember this, “First YOU have to clean him, so get out your knife and get busy on it.”  I said, “Aren’t you going to help me?”  He then said, “Nope.  I cleaned the goat for you, this one belongs to you!  You shot it, you clean it, but don’t get blood and guts all over your clothes or you’ll be in big trouble.”

About The Knife

The knife I used is something unique; it is an heirloom.  There probably aren’t more than 10 of these knives in existence, since they were individually hand-made by a relative that was a professional hunter’s guide in Wyoming for many years, Norman Gillespie.  This knife is made out of used power hack saw blades, with a brazed on handle bolt, and real elk-horn for the handle.  Note that the blade has the cutting edge on one side (not hollow ground, however), and the hack saw teeth on the other, with the grooves for the fingers even carved out of the elk-horn.  The reason for the hack saw teeth, out West, when we clean big game, we split the rib cage from diaphragm all the way to the edge of the brisket.  We also split the pubic bone as well.  This prevents tearing any “gut” and/or getting any of that onto the hind quarters.  It also makes for better venting and quicker cooling of the carcass and makes it a ton easier to get the lungs and upper body entrails out of the animals. There were other manufactured tools out there at the time, but this knife was a do it all and was light, compact, and very effective in getting the job done.

I managed somehow to clean that deer and also didn’t get any blood on me anywhere other than my hands.  Now what to do to haul this 200+ pound animal out of here and down (fortunately only one rise to get over, then downhill the rest of the way).

My dad tells me to get out my rope and we will cut down a small aspen and carry him down “Indian style.”  Rope?  What rope?  Yep, in my hurried rush to get the stuff together, I had left the ¼” rope in the car, and the car was at the base of Elk Mountain!  So, I got to do the next best thing and that was to take my shoe laces (leather laces) and cut off a few short pieces to tie the boots on good enough to walk in.  The rest of the leather laces were used to lash the deer’s hooves to the “pole” so we could carry that deer down the mountain. (Did I tell you that the “knife” makes for a good saw to saw down the aspen “pole” we used?)  The only good side to this was that my dad carried the back end of the deer, while I got the “lighter” and “Pokier” end of the animal to fight with.  Several hours later, we got the deer off that mountain, and took the photos of the animal by the car.  Mom was ecstatic and thought this was terrific.  My dad was still miffed a bit that I hadn’t seen the giant one he was looking at until I had already taken this one.  He gave me “crap” about forgetting that rope for years and years afterwards.  But it isn’t the only “crap” I was going to take for minor “mess ups.”

I will mention again that this mulie wasn’t the biggest on in the herd.  The one my dad took the shot at was by far larger than this one!  However, I had only followed his instructions and took the first big mulie I saw that was close and a sure shot.  I don’t think that shot was any farther than 30 or at most, 40 yards.  We had managed to sneak right up on them and surprise the heck out of them!  The antlers were very thick beamed, a true and near perfect 4X4 buck with 30” across the beams.  This time, we managed to get the antlers off the skull without breaking them.  They were mounted and sat in my dad’s garage for many years.  He gave them to my uncle from England that wanted them to take back to England with him, and I don’t know whatever came of them after that.

The biggest memories from that hunt are the “those are probably sheep”, that cold, blustery October day, the long climb, the surprising of the herd of deer, that single shot, my father yelling at me because he was looking at one deer and I had already shot a different one, the “You shot him, you clean him” comment, forgetting the rope, and the long, arduous carrying of that heavy thing off of “Elk Mountain” near Farson, Wyoming in 1961.

In my next blog, I’ll relate a story about a terrific group elk hunt, circa, 1963!  Unfortunately, the photos of the camp and the elk we harvested have been lost, but the memories are still vivid in my mind!  Oh, but for the good ole days of easy hunting in old Wyoming!  Oh, if I could only provide you photos of these (note the plural) elk!

--Tom Dorigatti, May, 2015

Visions of the Way it Was, Circa 1961

Visions of the Way it Was, Circa 1961
The First Pronghorn, 1961

By Tom Dorigatti

I was born and raised in the State of Wyoming.  That offered me the privilege of being born with a fishing pole in one hand and a rifle in the other, ha!  Seriously, I grew up hunting and fishing at every opportunity.  Much of it wasn’t for sport, but rather from the stand point of filling the freezer and providing fish to eat in the summers and wild game in the fall and the winter. The picture below was taken in 1951.  I was 4 years old and had just taken my first cottontail rabbit with a gun.  The gun was a .410 bolt action shotgun and the person in the photo was a friend that was with us.  His name was Jim Sprowell.  He helped hold the shotgun up for me while I aimed and fired the gun.  I got lucky and nailed the cottontail with the first shot!  Danged gun kicked like a mule, too, haha.  I couldn’t hold both the gun and the rabbit, so Jim is holding the gun while I am admiring the rabbit that is nearly as long as I am tall!

In the 1950’s and 1960’s, the time frame when I grew up, hunting and fishing in Wyoming was at its apex.  The success rate (for rifle hunting) was 100% for antelope (pronghorn) and mule deer, and 95% for elk.  In the areas we hunted, we normally didn’t have to even ask permission to go into private property to hunt and/or fish.  The only requirement was to leave the place the way you found it and keeping the gate(s) open if they were open, and closed if they were closed.  The ranchers and farmers, of course, appreciated it when you did ask and appreciated it even more if/when you left the Game & Fish Commission tag for land-owner compensation from the State of Wyoming for game harvested upon their land.

How times have changed!  I didn’t go in and do extensive research, but I can tell you that the success rates for rifle hunting, resident or not is no longer 100% for antelope and mule deer, and is way down for elk, too.

My father, now deceased often said that where we used to have to use a 4WD vehicle to get to, a person now drives in with a car.  Where you needed a horse, you now drive a 4WD vehicle, and where you had to hoof it (which is where we normally went), you can easily get to with an ATV.  Back in the 1950’s and ‘60’s of course, ATV’s weren’t around and the trails we used never saw a gasoline powered vehicle due to the Wilderness Area Laws restricting the usage of any gas powered vehicle in a declared “Wilderness Area.”  Obviously, those laws have been relaxed in this day and age!

Antelope Licenses:

Another interesting change is the cost of licenses for residents and the manner in which those licenses are “secured.”  Back in the 1950’s & 1960’s, the resident licenses for antelope were $5.00.  The areas were open on given dates, and a drawing wasn’t required.  To secure a license, the date the licenses went on sale was announced and if you wanted a particular area, you had to be in line early and they were sold on a first-come, first-serve basis!  I remember standing in line waiting for the gun shop to open so that I could try to get the area(s) close to home that my dad and I had been scouting for “big goats.”  We knew where the big goats were lurking, and it was tougher to get the license than it was to get a monster buck.
The State was (and still is) divided up into many hunting areas designated by numbers.  Each area had specific boundaries and specific dates when the antelope season was open. Most of the antelope permits were for either sex, but there were some areas that were buck only or doe only.  One pronghorn per year was the limit, and even today, that holds true unless the permits don’t sell out.  The areas around my hometown are the most difficult to get

This particular article is dealing with my very first Pronghorn (antelope or “goat” as Wyomingites still call them).  The legal age for the taking of big game back then was age 14.  Of course, I had hunted antelope, deer, and elk with my father for many years before turning 14.  In addition, I had purchased my own 30-06 rifle at age 12 and had been taught how to shoot this high powered rifle relatively well by the time I turned the legal age of 14.  I was allowed to purchase an antelope permit when they went on sale even though at the time of sale I wasn’t yet 14.  However, the area that I purchased a license for opened after I turned 14, making me legal to hunt.

The Hunt for that first “legal” Pronghorn.

Antelope season opened 5 days after I turned 14 years old.  We had scouted the area quite a bit right after I secured the license, so we knew there were some big bucks lurking in specific parts of that hunting area South of my hometown.  There was a particularly large buck we sure wanted a chance to harvest!

My father spotted this huge buck with the 7X35 binoculars, but he was in a spot we couldn’t get to for a decent stalk. The buck wasn’t disturbed and was oblivious to our being there since we were well away from other hunters.  He was moving towards a place where we could head him off and surprise him.  My father limited my distance to 100 yards or less even though the rifle was sighted in for 250 yards.  Hey, I was a 14-year old kid, and a 250 yard shot with a high powered rifle was for me or any small kid a “long poke” and too risky!  With that in mind, we got back to the car and drove towards the spot we planed on cutting this monster buck off.

We got a huge surprise!  The buck had moved faster than we anticipated, and we no sooner got to the top of the slope and here stood this monster buck, less than 40 yards away!  He was as shocked as we were and stopped immediately in a quartering towards angle.  I slammed the bolt shut, dropped to the kneeling position, took off the safety, aimed low on his neck and squeezed the trigger.  Shooting animals in the neck had become a habit drilled into me time and time again while hunting rabbits and other game, so it was 2^nd nature to go for the killing neck shot.  The gun went off, and the buck dropped in his tracks! I had my first buck antelope; one shot, one kill.  As you can well see in the photo below, this animal was a “booker.”  Unfortunately, however, we messed up and cracked the pate when we were removing the horns and ruined the entire thing.  All we have is the photo below, and of course the unforgettable memory of the buck that surprised us as much as we surprised him.

Of course, since this was my very first big game animal, my father again “rewarded” my fine shot by showing me how to properly clean the animal!  That would quickly change!

The rifle used was a Montgomery Wards 30-06 sporter with a right handed Mauser 98 bolt action and a 4X Weaver Scope and a standard stock mounted leather rifle sling.  The stock was a standard walnut Monte Carlo stock with the cheek pad on the wrong side for this left-handed shooter.  I never had a rifle with the cheek piece on the correct side for shooting left handed!  I also didn’t like left handed bolts, so we never bothered with that option either.  We also did not use tripods on our guns back then; I had to learn the standing, kneeling, and sitting positions with only the aid of the standard military manner of using the rifle sling to steady the rifle.  It had a 22” barrel on it and for a 120 pound kid, this rifle absolutely kicked like a mule! 

Here are the other specifications for those of you interested in reloading the 30-06 caliber loads.

Bullet: .308 Sierra Semi Point, 150 grains (we used 180 grain bullets for elk).

Powder: IMP 4320, 52 grains, (or 58 grains of IMR 4350 powder). For the above hunt the round was loaded with the 4320 powder.  We kept our loads separate and appropriately marked.

Brass: Military Brass, fire-formed and neck sized only. (Fire-form load: IMR 4320 powder, 49 grains.)

Primer: Winchester C-120, flash hole cleaned before reloading.

Speed: approximately 2950 fps.

Another item you may find interesting is the price of reloading for 100 rounds (excluding brass) was only $11.25!  Yes, you read it right 100 rounds of 30-06 reloaded at a cost of $11.25.

Powder:  Either 4320 or 4350 cost $5.00 a pound.

Bullets:  The 155 grain Sierra bullets were $5.00 per 100 rounds.

Primers:  The Winchester C-120 primers were $1.25 per 100.

Factory Ammo could be purchased for $5.75 per 20 rounds in a box.

In my next blog, I’ll show you a photo of my first “legal” mule deer harvest and relate the story behind this one!  The story is true, and the names have not been changed to protect neither the guilty nor the innocent!  You will enjoy the story behind my first mule deer circa, 1961!